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Visual Studio 2005 First Looks

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We're now looking at the shipping version of Microsoft Visual Studio 2005:

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Here are some early comments about Visual Studio 2005 development environment:

• We have and some of the developers are saying it is pretty good.
• Mainsoft have released Visual MainWin?Create that plugs into VS and allows VB.Net & C# to be compiled for J2EE.
• Received early access to this back a few months ago. I immediately put 2 of my top-Top-TOP MCSD's on it and 3 MCSE's to figure out how to deploy it to all of our workstations. I use Visual Studio on all end users desktops as it encourages XML parsing and script writing amongst the general user population. My rep mentioned this and said we would more than offset the increased licensing costs by using a utility computing methodology to script writing. It has worked wonders for us and I cannot wait to deploy VS 2005 to everyone

• Learning new languages:
  • Another nice feature is the move from VB.Net to C# is very easy. For me, I already know C++ and Java, and to go from VB.Net to C# is 1-2 days. I don't know about other .Net languages, but it's probably pretty similar

• Cons:
  • my main thing with all of this is i learned vb6, then there was vb.net shortly afterwards, i wonder when that will change again? how many times would people need to be retrained for their product? as i understood it, each major version of vb, created imcompatabilities with the previous..
  • I've been using .NET technologies for quite some time now. I love it. Easy to program in and VERY powerful. However i wish they would make .NET extensions cross-platform, so AT LEAST WEBSITES written in .NET could be ran off UNIX servers. And also, I wish .NET was cheaper. No room for the little guy to advance. Typical MS.
  • OH BOY! More 'not ready for prime time' software to demonstrate features may or may not be in the final version of the 2005 release which is probably postponed until 2006 at the earliest! I nearly soiled myself with unbridled enthusiasm at the prospect. Where do I sign for the next 'Software Assurance' license to keep providing me with these regular upgrades, which I'm sure will happen some day.........
  • Beating a dead horse?
    • You know, I've asked this question several times but here goes again. Just how easy does this have to be? It ain't brain surgery folks! Don't get me wrong, I'm all for tools that really make my job easier. But at what point does this all become trivial? I just keep thinking of the story of the frog in the pot of water on the stove... by the time the frog realizes that the waters getting hot, it's too late. To paraphrase for those of you that don't get the point; by the time we realize that MS's goal is to take the science out of computer science and replace us with monkeys, we'll all be on the sidewalk selling pencils. Well, all of us except COBOL programmers.
    • With all due respect, there's a big difference between using tools and understanding concepts. Is the SR-71 any less impressive because it was designed 50+ years ago by a bunch of guys using slide rules? If I had a choice between an engineer that can only figure out cube roots on a calculator and one that can only do it on paper, I'll take the guy that does it on paper. At least I know he understands the concepts. And chances are he can adapt to the calculator.

• Questions:
  • Does this version of Visual Studio have the ability to disable the Design tab, or prevent VS from reformatting your code for you? VS seems to be a pretty amazing tool, but code reformatting is a throwback to Frontpage 97 -- which is why I stopped using that app in the first place.

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