Politically Incorrect Guide To Islam - Inteview With Jeff Katz
Robert Spencer is director of Jihad Watch.
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JK: Where do we start, what is the biggest secret we are not supposed to know?
RS: Everyone says Islam is a religion of peace, that has been hijacked by terrorist. No one is honest about the core text of Islam, the Koran at the core text of Islam, that mandates war against unbelievers. The peaceful believers in America haven't tried to resist the jihadists because they know the jihadists have the core texts of Islam on their side, and they will be excoriated as unbelievers if they resist.
The moderates know this and keep quiet about the whole problem of terrorist, even if they know it.
JK: Is it possible for islamic believers to be moderate?
RS: It is possible for anyone to be moderate, and not hold to some of the core elements of that religion. For example many Christians dont go down the whole list of what churches say. The problem is that these moderates without the texts on their sides, secular muslims, are vulnerable to be recruited when shown what the Koran actually says.
JK: In Lodi we have the ice cream man who was recruited.
RS: Yes, we've identified the place that they were planning to use to teach jihad to moderate muslim youth.
At the same time the Freedom House, released a hair raising report about American Mosques and madrasas, and they found open hatred and talk against Jews and Christians, and talks about replacing the U.S. constitution with Islamic law.
JK: A lot of people say that a plurastic government wouldn't work, because Islam is incompatible.
RS: Turkey is the only country where this exists, and it was formed in a war against Islam, and keeps the Islamists at bay by force and concession. If a democracy is established, it will always be under pressure by extremists who feel that muslim law is the law of God, and they are under requirements to establish it.
Caller Max: I had to leave the country with my english wife after the revolution. There is no peacefulness in Islam. Look at the Persian empire. I wanted to really warn you, don't get fooled by the demeanor by the new Muslims. They are at a war with anglosaxon culture period
JK: You are a muslim, correcT?
Max: I am non practicing. I had to leave the country, I was teaching at the university there. I came to UK, and then I came to the US.
My father was tortured and killed, he went from 200 pounds to 70 pounds after being tortured. He was a physics professor, and an advocate of democracy in Iran.
JK: Why do you not ake the lead, and stand up and say that there are parts of Islam that are at war with democracy, as you say?
I led that in Iran, but I had to leave with my wife and kids, after 15 years of working, and leave everything behind. We had a persian empire. It turned into such a mess. The core is terrorism is in Iran. You are talking about Al Queda, the Iraq, the head of the serpent is in Iran, we are only chaising the tailof it.
JK: Robert, Max I think has an interesting perspective having fled iran. Lets talk about how Islam is being practiced in Iran and spread throughout the middle east.
RS: The Khomeni regime was one of the foremost boost of the resurgence of the virulent form of Islam. They protray themselves as the true islam, and anyone who speaks against them as no real and true, and that is dangerous when the penalty is apostacy or death.
JK: People talk about the crusades as a bloody military activity killing people willy nilly.
RS: In point of fact, th epope never did apologize for the crusades. He apologized in general for misdeeds of Christians to non-believers, but that was not specifically about the crusades. Bill Clinton and others point to the crusaders as being the beginning of the emnity, but the things they did were not out of ordinary for the time. The crusaders were the answer to 450 years of jihad that overwhelmed the Christian lands of north africa. The core of the muslim countries today were conquered and brutally subjugated by muslim invaders. The crusades was simply a reaction after 450 years of muslim aggressive.
JK: Who has twisted this?
RS: You have an ongoing large effort to make us ashamed of our history, tradion, and as americans as exponents of Western civilization. This plays into the hands of the jihadists. The multi-cultural left plays into the hands of the Jihadists.
JK: It's vitally important you read "The politically incorrect guide to Islam". We will talk about Islam, and it's conduct towards women in particular, as we go through the afternoon.
JK: It is very rare that I come across a book I feel so compelled to tell you about. I describe it as vitally important reading, you must read this book. 800-345-5639. Jakim in Sonoma is joining us
Jakim: I just became aware of your show. I listen to your opinion, and I must ask: The people you have aligned yourself with, how do you reconcile yourself that the people you hang out with hate people like you and me.
JK: Who is it I am hanging out with who hates me?
Jakim: The people with confederate flag are anti-jew, and anti-black.
JK: Alright fine, a collosal waste of time. I apologize for that.
JK: Let me get back to Robert Spencer. Lets talk about the chapter in your books Islam and Christianity, Equivalent traditions. This premise has been put forward that they are all peaceful religions trying to find their
RS: It's not even remotely true, and it is very misleading to people. What about the inquisition, and the crusades. Thats one of the reasons I wrote the book to try and clear up this nonsense. What does something that happened 500 years ago have to do with the contemporary political situation? 500 year old behviour doesn't excuse beastly behaviour today?
No one wants to come to grips with the implications of that, as I point out in the book.
People who claim that all religions are capable of inspring violence aren't facing the facts
The teachings of jesus and mohamed are radically different.
JK: Is it possible for Islam to exist with Judaism or Christianity?
RS: No, not as equals. Only as long as Islam is supreme. Jews and christians must be second class citizens, that is mandated by islamic law, not as equals.
caller: An indian catholic was able to convert milions of muslims to christianity by using the Koran
RS: I cowrote a book ith a convert from islam to christianity, a book called "inside islam" , and it was quite remarkable to go through it with him. The koran teaches that Jesus will return at the end of the world, was sinless, and born of a virgin. It doesn't say any of these things about Mohamed. Mohamed himself was influenced by Christian teachers, but he twisted it into a very different form. It holds that Mohamed is the greatest of the prophets, but Jesus is better.
caller: Mohamed never did a miracle.
RS: Islam holds that his only miracle was the koran
JK: People will say that the oran talks about people of the book and pays tribute to these other great rleigions. and there are others who say islam talks about these things, but it implies that everyone becomes a muslim
RS: It says straight out that the religion will all be for islam and all for allah. Mohamed says "I have been commanded to fight against people until they all say there is no god but allah and that I am his messenger."
Jesus was supposedly going to come back and abolish the poll tax on non-muslims, because they will all become muslims.
Some talk about a stage in mohamed career when he talks about a peaceful existing, but the stuff about war and subjugation came later and replaced the peaceful texts.
JK: Some people claim islam keeps women clean.
RS: Sure, in many islam societies women can't even go outside with out permission from a man. The fact is that a koran mandates (vs. 4:34) that men can beat women. In court a womans testimony only is half of a mans, and she cant testify in sexual crimes, so she can't testify in the case of her own rape. This is no idea of equality as we understand it. Apologists tirelessly claim that Islam exalted the position of women in the 7th century, and that might be true, but this is the 12st century.
JK: Many of things we have been told since September 11th simply aren't true. Dennis is in Hayward.
Denis: I need to get the book to arm myself against these enlightened comments. The Koran actually speaks a lot more about the dignity of the virgin mary, but they downplay Christ.
RS: It seems that was is most likely is that Mohamed had access to some gnostic materials, these peoples left the Byzantine Empire and went to arabia, and held to these heresies. There is the story about Jesus making clay birds into sparrows and clapping his hands, and that got into the Koran from Christian heretics. these very things were jostling in Mohameds mind, and he wanted to be in the tradition of Abraham. So he positioned himself in the Koran as clearing up disputes between Christians, and lowering the place of Christ.
An uncanny strategy. Quite a few of his prophecies are quite self serving. The marrying of his sons wife. Many other interesting cases where the revelation was convenient. Even his wife Isha, when he was 52 and he was 9, and she said "It's funny how Allah is ready to rush to your aid with a revelation when you are in a pinch."
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