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Vicente,
Michael Moore has been thoroughly discredited by any kind of thoughtful analysis of his themes or "facts". Even by people who generally don't like Bush or the current administration.
What I find truly frightening is the number of foreigners who are duped by the film claiming to be a "documentary". A Bulgarian friend encouraged me to watch it, and another friend wrote to me gushing about the Palm'd Ore award. So I did watch it, and wrote this review of it: http://www.chat11.com/Fahrenheit_9_11
I don't follow history close enough to go item by item through all of Moore's misrepresentations. Others have done so much better than I could. But I was still able to spot large number of bogus themes in his movie, few of which I've summarized below.
Moore tries to make points of nonsensical things whose alternatives are even worse than the things Moore is pointing out. For example: He excoriates Bush and Cheney for having big corporate jobs before they became politicians. So what!?!? I'd rather have politicians who had experience in the real business world and maybe some understanding of the business damaging effects of government, rather than politicians whose only qualifications are a previous run for office.
Making fun of Bush for 20 or 30 years ago receiving investment from the Bin Laden family is like the people who rant against Japanese investment in our country. Are these people so clueless that they dont understand how such investments create jobs? Being a film-maker, or a welfare office worker, seem to be the only jobs that Moore resspects.
Moore's interviewing little old ladies in a nursing home about big business was kind of funny. At least they finally got upset with the interruption and wanted to get back to their game of pinocle. Their assertations that risk free money was being handed to Haliburton, was actually pretty comical. Couldn't Moore find and interview a CEO of a disadvantaged business who was prepared to make a proveably better and cheaper bid to provide the same services? Little old ladies are probably more telegenic, and much easier to get in contact with.
As for the nonsense about Haliburton not having to bid for the work: Hailburton had been preapproved, through a bidding process, well in advance of the Iraqi war, to be a credible company to do the kinds of things that they've been called in to Iraq to do.
As for tailing the Marine recruiters, and exposing what they were supposedly saying in their car as they decided to go and recruit, that was kind of comical. I'm surprised these recruiters went along with this. They were made out to look like Amway salesmen.
But again, what's wrong with the opportunity of the military, especially for the kids in his home town? Moore trots out all kinds of people focused on the benefits, none on the responsibilities they signed up for, and of course he finds no one thankful for the opportunity.
Couldn't he have found one person who could say "Yeah, I was in the military, it was tough, I was sent over to some bad places. But I did my time, and went and used the education money to go to a college that my family couldn't provide. Now I have a degree and a job I wouldn't have if it weren't for the opportunity the military gave me."
Michael proves that rampant stupidity abounds among those charged with protecting our nation. I was amazed at the stupidity of the state trooper in Oregon who was willing to share Oregon's law enforcement meager staffing levels with the whole nation. And with those who hate the nation, too. Thanks Michael for helping them discover which state with an ocean shore might be the easiest for them to knock off. That trooper ought to be fired for being so clueless.
Moore points out about the terror alerts being so random that no one can really continue to stay on edge because of them. Good point, Michael, that was one part of the movie well done.
Michael Moore's example of problems with the Patriot Act was ludicrous and had nothing to do with it: A peace group infilitrated by a sheriff's deputy assigned to check them out, while using a false name. Huh? So what, has nothing to do with patriot act. And the guy working out at the gym seemed a nice guy. But a random anonymous tip off to the police by his workout partners? Again, what does this have to do with Patriot Act? Anonymous tipoffs to the government against your family and neighbors has been something our government has been encouraging the citizens to do against each other for at least the last 20 years
Let me just quote an ex-policeman, several years prior to 9/11, who now works with criminal defense lawyers defending innocent people wrongly accused by the government: "The police can tell you anything they want, if it will get you to say something that confirms the crime they are trying to prove. As a cop, one moment I can be your enemy, the next your best friend, whatever it takes to get you to incriminate yourself or someone else. There is no law that stops me from lying to you in casual conversation, if it helps me get my case proven."
Jim McDermot?Create, with his beady eyes, was pretty funny. Jim Dermott is very animated when he talks about how the Patriot Act was "written in the middle of the night, printed in the middle of the night, delivered in the middle of the night." Makes congress sound either like it never sleeps, or like a bunch of Transylvanian vampires.
Moore was possibly at his best with his candid camera shtick of pointing out to Congressmen that "Only one congressman has an >ENLISTED< child in the military." Actually, I was kind of horrified for the safety of the senators that it's apparently so easy for a nutcase with a camera crew to get so close to them.
But did you catch the key word in the phrase he kept repeating? Does anyone know how many Congressmen have sons and daugthers who are officers in the military? Does Michael think that officers don't matter? There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics. Glad Michael didn't stop with just damned lies.
So let's see, foreign investment in America is bad, they should like put their money in France, or Germany. Big business is bad because it makes profits under the control of corrupt political leaders, and it makes a profit while ruining his home town. And the military is a bad employment opportunity because it is also controlled by corrup political leaders. And politicians are generally bad because they give their kids opportunities to keep them out of the ranks of enlisted canon fodder. What's left for the people in his bombed out looking home town? Oh yeah, be taken care of by the government and maybe work for the government in social services. Yeah....
Thanks Michael, but no thanks.... I think I'll take the world the way it is, warts and all, rather than the way you seem to want it to be.
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