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Charlotteville Virginia police have been looking for months for a serial rapist. They have good DNA samples from the rapist.

FBI said that in 1/3rd of the cases they used DNA testing on, the DNA evidence was exculpatory.

In Charlotteville Virginia, some victims have given a description that says that the man is a bit tall, and African American.

So the police in Charlotteville are trying to get the black men in Charlotteville to submit DNA samples to prove they are

Cavalier Daily - "In it's ongoing hunt for a serial rapist, the police department is asking certain black men to undergo a dna test" involving swabbing the inside of the mouth.

They say they are trying to rule out people on a contact list. A certain black man (Steven Turner, a grad student) has been asked to give a sample twice, and he has refused each time.

What do you think about this?

If you were in a community where horrible crimes had been commited, and you knew the police were trying to do the right thing and find the criminal, what if they were asking every man in the village to give up a sample of DNA to prove that they are not guilty?

Lars reactions:

Should Steven Turner have to give the sample? Should he be willing?

What do you do when the police have a sample of your DNA, should they be able to hold it indefinitely?

If you are arrested, the sheriff will normally keep evidence about you on file relatively indefinitely. They take your name, address, personal data, your finger prints, before putting you in custody. If the next day they find out you are not guilty of anything, they release you, but they dont release your photo or give you back any of your info. Should the same thing be done with DNA?

Lars worries about this kind of threat to privacy much more than the patriot act.

Your DNA holds lots of information that can get extracted some day in the future. If it goes in a public database, could it get into the hands of someone like an insurance company? What if it might show you have certain behaviour tendencies?

The student Steven Turner was stopped by police while walking down the street. He was told to show his hands, and told him they were looking for someone who was harrassing young women, and then asked him to give a DNA sample. He refused.

The original case like this in a village in Scotland, only 3 people in a village refused to give a sample, and it turned out that one of those 3 was actually guilty.

Caller From Charlotteville

Caller: There was a big forum last night where they discussed this. It all comes from tips. Caller agrees that the guy shouldn't have to give the sample.

Another caller wonders about the error rate.

Lars mentions about the DNA tests that claim Thomas Jefferson fathered children with a black slave. Then someone else has come out with the idea that it was actually Thomas Jefferson's nephew.

Another caller a retired police officer: Famouse case in Florida where a person was accused of killing his children, in Central Florida. They used samples, and such, and the guy spent 22 years in prison, and with DNA they cleared him. Today, with DNA samples, he would have been cleared and never would have even went to trial. He saw investigators would identify a person and then build evidence against that person, rather than letting evidence point to a person. He also wondered about the problem of DNA of twins.

Another caller things this DNA collection idea is a slippery slope, and resembles the numbers tatooed on the arms of prison camp survivors.

Another caller who had been to prison for a felony says that it is now becoming mandatory in prisons that prisoners must give a DNA sample. He likes the idea.

Another caller who has been a police officer for 41 years does not like the idea of people being forced to give evidence against themselves. Polygraphs can not be forced, and people can not be forced to testify against themselves in court.

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