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Job Talk Show is a Sunday 1pm talk show on AM TALK 910 KNEW. The program features debate and advice on job related issues relevant to the San Francisco Bay Area.
Job Talk Show Notes April 25 2004
College costs are skyrocketing
American's can't afford to get the skills
We can't compete for jobs in the foreign countries
One dotcom is thinking about letting it's employees apply for jobs anywhere in the world. A laid off Palo This is impractical because it is a nonlevel playing field. They couldn't get work permits there...
The question is: The outsourcing is happening. It's not going to stop. The boards of these companies are making lots of money. What is the answer?
What can we do?
East Bay Job Fair, May 12, Wednesday, and Centenial Hall http://www.jobscareers.com
One bad thing to do is get ruled by lists. It is dangerous to direct all of your energies to the list, to get a job that might not be there in the future.
Look at all the folks trained to be web designers, now they are retrained to bartenders, and now to cab drivers. Who wants a bartender with no experience?
You have to not look at the list and think of being one of those thing. The real job growth is with the smaller companies. So do things that are useful to those kinds of businesses.
"What's good out there" is the wrong way to approach a career.
L.A. went through an economic downturn in the 1990's. Lots of people from there migrated to the north.
A lot of jobs that are coming available, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, are low paying jobs.
There is some small business growth in the L.A. area, but a lot of times those opportunities are not in the public spotlight. So you must do your research, and proactive search down those jobs.
Talked about War Driving and using it to check the web. People can tree hug, although they should do something that they are interested in. You can tree hug something if it is no longer there.
This might be the time when the jobs in the big companies are not the place to be.
You need to network, and talk to people in various places. You need to network. A lot of your work may come from small companies, and it may be more profitable than work for big companies at this time.
"Can you get me into google? So I can ride the wave?"
Are those tree huggers? Or people who are generally clueless?
Start thinking about who you are, what you can do, and who will give you money to do it?
Isn't there a grounding in reality needed?
A specific example: Human capital management consulting, some years there is a lot of outplacement. During good economies, they do a lot of search. All of that fits within what they are usually doing, and it is tweaked according to the current business conditions.
If you are a software engineer, and you can't get hired here, why not help companies find software engineers somewhere else? You can do project management? Often those countries need software managers to manage their programmers. So there is a burgeoning market in project management.
There are many new jobs being created, especially since the internet is becoming a serious business platform. You can't let trends stop you.
To get into places like Google, you will need to get creative and work your network.
http://www.witi.com - Meeting at Moffett Field, new Carnegie Campus. 6pm on Thursday night.
East Bay Job Far in Hayward on May 12th...
Caller Kurt, in the Industrial Tool Repair area: Saw people getting heavily into the computer area, and he wondered why they would build tools that would replace their jobs.
There is such a customer service need in the area of Industrial Tool Repair industry because the industrial arts jobs have been cut.
Customer service is always going to be there, no matter what kind of industry you are in.
Henry Ford: "You didn't pay me for what I did, you paid me for what I knew"
Women are continuing to leave corporatins to start businesses, and it is loosing the corporations money.
We'll see new business models where the existing people will have good skill sets for.
We are so in love with technology, but we forget about the human component of the job.
Women have it slightly easier than men when they loose their jobs. Women seem to have more flexibility because they haven't been in the job market for too long.
A lot of the women recently laid off in Silicon Valley tended to get rehired quicker than their husbands. They may be more customer service oriented, and willing to take less money.
A human resources lady in her 50's got laid off. She decided to redo her garden, then she started redoing her neighbors gardens, and now she is a successful landscaping consultant all over the Bay Area.
Hosts comment about his calling back a second time.
Kurt says that he started his business over 20 years ago. Back then it was 20 years ago, it was cut and dried. It all comes down to tooling. If you look at the tooling industry, it is heavily automated. You need to know how to do the computer tests to fix the equipment. It is a whole market that has not been hit by the computer industry, they never produced a product for the whole thing.
There are not enough people with the tooling industry, or the tooling factors, experience.
Host comments that Kurt owns his market, he has a business that is in short supply. He has kept his options open, and he is flexible.
Kurt says that the market is open to the whole public.
Hosts attempt to predict the future job market.
There will be new jobs coming up in the future, there will always be people needing things.
More money from doing work for other individuals, rather than working for large corporations. More personal services.
See continued growth of a lot of small and medium sized companies as major players in their vertical markets. The Internet is levelling the playing market. On our way to a Jetsons type culture.
Education has always been refered to as the panacea. Valleri mentions how almost no one can afford the college anymore. Education will probably continue to afford to be the big divide between the haves and have nots.
Caller Victor: Listening while driving through Palo Alto. Learned to work while age 8 at an orphanage. One thing not being said is "learn every job you can, get all the experience you can." Understand how the position and skill you have fits in with the entire puzzle. I was an electronics technician in the Navy, and people didn't want to hire me because I had too much experience. And while going to school, and I finished school, I found out that my work experience over qualified me to work in the field. While working in the orphanage, I learned how to go a good job at the things I don't like to do.
It's important to know how to work in any kind of environment.
Throw out job titles, and look for the possibities.
If you ever start feeling sorry for yourself, remember you are better off than 100 years ago. Even without jobs, most people have a roof and medical care and food..... 100 years ago remaking you meant that you went West, and you did what ever you had to do, even if it meant taking in laundry.
Valleri - 650-614-0220 http://www.vfandco.com
David - http://www.witi.com Job Talk Promo code for discount on membership.
Take a method and try it, and if it fails, try another. - FDR
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